Flying Sunday 8/27

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    • #14085
      John LincolnJohn Lincoln
      Participant

        Looking at SkySite Sunday 8/27 is looking OK. Lift at around 3.5 knots to 3500′ agl with cloud bases up to 4000′ agl. Winds out of the NE at 7 to 8 knots. And it isn’t going to be hot with high temps. forecast to be 72 or 73 degrees. The only fly in the ointment is the sea breeze which looks like it will arrive sometime between 3:30 to 4:30. Any interest in having an operation going Sunday? I know I would like to fly. John Lincoln

      • #14091
        Don GrilloDon Grillo
        Keymaster

          We have a towpilot for both Saturday and Sunday. We have a couple scenic rides to give Saturday morning around 11 if one of our commercial pilots is available to fly those.

          Don

        • #14094
          Gary PalumboGary Palumbo
          Participant

            I will be out Saturday GP

          • #14095
            Rich WalendaRich Walenda
            Participant

              Hello:

              Saturday at 8:30 am, KRFD is reporting a ceiling of 1200 feet AGL.  KDPA is reporting broken clouds at 1000 feet AGL. If it clears up I can come out to wing run, GSC, etc.

              Regards,

              Rich

            • #14096
              Don GrilloDon Grillo
              Keymaster

                Sunday is looking like a very nice day to fly gliders. Skysight is saying lift to 5500 around 2pm. Blue skies and light winds out of the east, northeast. We cancelled yesterdays scenic rides due to low clouds but  they will be returning today, if we have a commercial pilot available to give rides. I believe we may have 4 or 5 people come out.

                Saturday was spent mowing and general repair. A few pattern tows were given to DJ once the overcast skies broke up.

                Don

              • #14101
                Don GrilloDon Grillo
                Keymaster

                  We had a great turnout of people out at the field on Sunday. Unfortunately, we ran into a magneto problem with the towplane. At first we thought it might have been a bad spark plug but after changing plugs we had the same problem. The right magneto was problematic so our A&P Gary pulled it off and Jimbob will bring it to Poplar Grove today. We had lots of disappointed members and guests as we didn’t get a single flight in.  The towplane will be down for a few days.

                  Don

                • #14106
                  John DeRosaJohn DeRosa
                  Participant

                    Many thanks for Don, Gary, and others at the field that worked on this and Jimbob Slocum for working with Airmotive at Popular Grove.

                    I know that this is disappointing for everyone out on Sunday – a very nice day to be flying.  The tow plane seemed to be running well.  It would have been convenient to keep flying but stopping the operation was done for SAFETY reasons.  It may help to understand why I say “Safety” if you know about the magneto and its importance for the ignition system of our tow plane.

                    In your car/truck there is a single ignition system.  If it were to fail your only problem is finding a place to pull over and waiting for the tow truck (and maybe telling the boss that you will be late today).  Inconvenient but you are safe.

                    You may not be aware that our tow plane – for safety – has two totally separate ignition systems with the magnetos being one of the critical components.   Before the first flight of the day you might have seen the tow plane move over at the edge of the runway with its engine being run from idle to high throttle.  During this event each magneto is tested both separately, and together, to ensure that the engine is running well.

                    As you can imagine the engine failing on a tow is an critical situation.  This is why we all repeatedly practice during tows simulated Premature Termination of Tows (PTTs) via “wave offs” and rope breaks – not to mention slack rope recovery.

                    Many things we do during our operations are for safety.  An example is quickly moving a landed glider off the Runway ASAP and not waiting for the golf cart to show up (for convenience).  No glider in the air or in the pattern?  STILL MOVE THAT GLIDER – so it becomes a habit.

                    Remember => Safety Not Convenience.

                    Thanks, John DeRosa

                     

                  • #14108
                    John LincolnJohn Lincoln
                    Participant

                      Just a quick add to John DeRosa’s thread here. If one of the Magnetos is out on the Pawnee then it is running on just the second Magneto. That means no back-up. If the second fails then the motor stops  and of course everyone will be landing soon and fairly close to where they are. It isn’t safe to takeoff with one Magneto not running and hence the wise decision not to tow on Sunday. John Lincoln

                    • #14155
                      Mark MallamoMark Mallamo
                      Participant

                        Are we really at the point where we have to ask if anyone wants to fly on the weekend??

                        -Mark

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                      • #14156
                        Tim PonsotTim Ponsot
                        Participant

                          Hi FolksI should be able to come around 11:30 til whenever. I just got my teaching schedule for this semester. and I’m free Wednesdays all day with some limited availability for weekends and dusk patrols (3PM or later start time)CheersTim

                        • #14157
                          Daniel SpencerDaniel Spencer
                          Participant

                            I’m also interested in flying sunday

                          • #14158
                            Nicholas LegenzaNicholas Legenza
                            Participant

                              I’ll be out to tow.

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                            • #14160
                              Don GrilloDon Grillo
                              Keymaster

                                We have a tow pilot for both Saturday and Sunday. We have two
                                scenic glider rides scheduled for Saturday morning as well, if one
                                of our commercial pilots would like to fly those.

                                Come on out!!!

                                Don

                              • #14161
                                Art SilvermanArt Silverman
                                Participant
                                  I would like to, but I will be out of town.

                                  On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 03:52:15 PM CDT, SSI <webmaster@skysoaring.com> wrote:

                                • #14162
                                  John PhelanJohn Phelan
                                  Participant

                                    I’ll be out mid-afternoon.

                                    John F. Phelan
                                    (S20 Mobile)

                                  • #14163
                                    Petr FolwarcznyPetr Folwarczny
                                    Participant

                                      I’m planning to be there on Sunday, Petr

                                      From: SSI [mailto:webmaster@skysoaring.com]
                                      Sent: Friday, August 25, 2023 10:35 AM
                                      To: petrfolw@comcast.net
                                      Subject: Flying Sunday 8/27, By John Lincoln, [Sky Soaring]

                                    • #14164
                                      Nicholas LegenzaNicholas Legenza
                                      Participant

                                        I will be out tomorrow Sunday (8/27) at 10 am to tow. Be there or be square.

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                                      • #14170
                                        Mike HurdMike Hurd
                                        Participant

                                          John (or anyone who knows the answer),

                                          Is magneto repair typically an expensive proposition? Mike_________

                                          Reply To: Flying Sunday 8/27 From John DeRosa, [General Discussion Forum]

                                          Many thanks for Don, Gary, and others at the field that worked on this and Jimbob Slocum for working with Airmotive at Popular Grove.

                                          I know that this is disappointing for everyone out on Sunday – a very nice day to be flying.  The tow plane seemed to be running well.  It would have been convenient to keep flying but stopping the operation was done for SAFETY reasons.  It may help to understand why I say “Safety” if you know about the magneto and its importance for the ignition system of our tow plane.

                                          In your car/truck there is a single ignition system.  If it were to fail your only problem is finding a place to pull over and waiting for the tow truck (and maybe telling the boss that you will be late today).  Inconvenient but you are safe.

                                          You may not be aware that our tow plane – for safety – has two totally separate ignition systems with the magnetos being one of the critical components.   Before the first flight of the day you might have seen the tow plane move over at the edge of the runway with its engine being run from idle to high throttle.  During this event each magneto is tested both separately, and together, to ensure that the engine is running well.

                                          As you can imagine the engine failing on a tow is an critical situation.  This is why we all repeatedly practice during tows simulated Premature Termination of Tows (PTTs) via “wave offs” and rope breaks – not to mention slack rope recovery.

                                          Many things we do during our operations are for safety.  An example is quickly moving a landed glider off the Runway ASAP and not waiting for the golf cart to show up (for convenience).  No glider in the air or in the pattern?  STILL MOVE THAT GLIDER – so it becomes a habit.

                                          Remember => Safety Not Convenience.

                                          Thanks, John DeRosa

                                        • #14171
                                          Don GrilloDon Grillo
                                          Keymaster

                                            Good news, thanks to Jimbob and Poplar Grove the Pawnee repairs are complete, and the towplane is back up and running.

                                            — Don
                                          • #14172
                                            Karl LandlKarl Landl
                                            Participant

                                              I know what it means to quickly moving a landed glider off the Runway ASAP. Seen it all!

                                              Karl

                                              On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 11:22:47 AM CDT, SSI <webmaster@skysoaring.com> wrote:

                                            • #14173
                                              Karl LandlKarl Landl
                                              Participant

                                                On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 11:22:47 AM CDT, SSI <webmaster@skysoaring.com> wrote:

                                                I know what it means to quickly moving a landed glider off the Runway ASAP. Seen it all

                                                Karl
                                              • #14175
                                                Karl LandlKarl Landl
                                                Participant

                                                  On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 11:22:47 AM CDT, SSI <webmaster@skysoaring.com> wrote:

                                                  I know what it means to quickly moving a landed glider off the Runway ASAP. Seen it all!

                                                  Karl
                                                • #14176
                                                  Karl LandlKarl Landl
                                                  Participant

                                                    On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 11:22:47 AM CDT, SSI <webmaster@skysoaring.com> wrote:

                                                    I know what it means to quickly moving a landed glider off the Runway ASAP. Seen it all!

                                                    Karl
                                                  • #14177
                                                    Karl LandlKarl Landl
                                                    Participant

                                                      On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 11:22:47 AM CDT, SSI <webmaster@skysoaring.com> wrote:

                                                      I know what it means to quickly moving a landed glider off the Runway ASAP. Seen it all!
                                                    • #14178
                                                      Karl LandlKarl Landl
                                                      Participant

                                                        On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 09:40:21 AM CDT, Karl Landl <k.landl@sbcglobal.net> wrote:



                                                        On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 11:22:47 AM CDT, SSI <webmaster@skysoaring.com> wrote:


                                                        I know what it means to quickly moving a landed glider off the Runway ASAP. Seen it all!


                                                        Karl
                                                      • #14190
                                                        Mike HurdMike Hurd
                                                        Participant

                                                          Don – what’s the current club policy on the BookOurPlane online “reservations”  tool you were promoting a couple of years ago?

                                                          _————-Sunday. We have twoscenic glider rides scheduled for Saturday morning as well, if oneof our commercial pilots would like to fly those.Come on out!!!Don

                                                        • #14205
                                                          Nicholas LegenzaNicholas Legenza
                                                          Participant

                                                            Any interest in tomorrow? I can tow.

                                                            Sent from my iPhone

                                                          • #14206
                                                            James SlocumJames Slocum
                                                            Participant

                                                              I would like to fly tomorrow. Sky Sight has lift to 7500

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