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Sunday, February 5th, 2023 at 12:46 pm #13158
John DeRosa
ParticipantThe Sky Soaring Open Glider Network (OGN) receiver is up and operational. We have the equipment for another receiver in Beloit WI to be installed in the spring to enlarge our coverage. Windy City has their receiver up and is planning on another installation near Rochelle. This should provide real-time coverage over our typical cross country area to the north, south and west.
OGN will allow us to track suitable equipped aircraft that have FLARM, ADS-B or (inexpensive) OGN transmitters. You can monitor OGN traffic – mostly this time of year in Europe, South America, and southern Africa – at live.glidernet.org, http://www.gliderradar.com and other sites. <cite class=”iUh30 tjvcx” role=”text”></cite>You can learn more about OGN by watching the video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RITXaCFxGM or the presentation at http://aviation.derosaweb.net/presentations/#ogn.
I am looking for a used desktop computer, and hopefully a monitor, to put in the SE corner of the hangar so that everyone can see our ships at a glance. We do have one OGN transmitter at this time which might go into either the tow plane or the Krosno. OGN transmitters are about $50 apiece so if anyone is interested in donating the cost to the club to add others to other gliders like the PW-5.
My ultimate goal is to help during operations for us to see where our gliders (club and privately owned) are plus our tow plane – not to mention gliders from other clubs. This is partially for safety, partially to keep track of our ships while flying nearby, AND to give everyone a bird’s eye view of how our cross country pilots are doing in an effort to spur interest in longer flying distances.
Thanks, John “OGN” DeRosa
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Sunday, February 5th, 2023 at 2:50 pm #13159
Rich Walenda
ParticipantHello:I do not have a computer to donate but I am willing to purchase a Blink camera and controller so that we can augment our Foscam camera system that is almost impossible to view on a cellphone. Having 1 or 2 extra cameras that show “ops or no ops” and adding easy to view security video is beneficial to the club. Any comments/thoughts? Regards,Rich
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Sunday, February 5th, 2023 at 2:56 pm #13160
Dennis Burke
ParticipantAye, The present Foscam app does Not work for my android cellphone, Rich.
Maybe the Foscam app for the iPhone family of users works great….?
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Sunday, February 5th, 2023 at 3:19 pm #13161
Steven Snyder
ParticipantCan the transmitter be moved from glider to glider like a hand held radio or is it mounted?
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Sunday, February 5th, 2023 at 4:37 pm #13162
Rich Walenda
ParticipantHello:
No, the Foscam is not friendly with iPhones either. All we need is 1 camera that shows an overview so we know at a glance that there is an op and/or if someone is at the glider side of the field. The camera and the OGN output together may be the answer see if there are ops and what kind of flights are occurring (cross country or just local training flights). I also would like for one of our seasoned soaring pilots to offer tips to me for soaring a bit further away than I have been used to.
Regards,
Rich
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Sunday, February 5th, 2023 at 5:03 pm #13163
Steven Snyder
ParticipantRich and Denny. The cameras are currently out of service. Hopefully back up soon.
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Sunday, February 5th, 2023 at 5:35 pm #13166
John DeRosa
ParticipantSteve,
My plan is to semi-permanently mount the small unit with velcro somewhere in the glider with a direct connection to ship’s power.The OGN transmitter auto-powers up once the master switch is turned on so no pilot interaction would be needed. Simple.So I think that after some trial runs in the spring we might decide to buy one or more units and install them in appropriate gliders.John H DeRosaOn Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 03:20:10 PM CST, SSI <webmaster@skysoaring.com> wrote:
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Sunday, February 5th, 2023 at 6:10 pm #13167
Steven Snyder
ParticipantJohn. I buy one so I can take it to Caesar Creek. They have the system installed there also.
Steve
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Sunday, February 5th, 2023 at 6:44 pm #13168
Petr Folwarczny
ParticipantHello. I have MB with AMD FX processor, with either 16 or 32 MB memory (not sure). I have HDD, graphic card and power supply too. Also have legal installation disk with Windows 7. Only need chassis, monitor, keyboard, mouse.
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Sunday, February 5th, 2023 at 7:10 pm #13169
Dennis Burke
ParticipantOne caveat, ….the LilyGo TTgo T-beam module for OGN transmission, (as shown in picture), will not power directly from the 12 volt buss in SSI gliders.A small power “buck-converter” circuit module will also be needed, to bring 12 volts down to about 5 volt to feed into the OGN module…(it has a USB port accepting 5 volts) -
Sunday, February 5th, 2023 at 8:29 pm #13170
John Phelan
ParticipantYou can buy self-contained buck converters on-line for $12.
One caveat, ….the LilyGo TTgo T-beam module for OGN transmission, (as shown in picture), will not power directly from the 12 volt buss in SSI gliders.A small power “buck-converter” circuit module will also be needed, to bring 12 volts down to about 5 volt to feed into the OGN module…(it has a USB port accepting 5 volts)
Best Regards,
John F. Phelan
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Monday, February 6th, 2023 at 1:13 am #13171
John DeRosa
ParticipantSome followup comments on putting these OGN transmitters in our aircrafts.
Correct that you must use a voltage converter to go from our 12Vdc battery “bus” (not “buss”) to supply USB level 5Vdc power to the OGN transmitter.The Amazon link for a converter that John P sent earlier was for a USB-C connection. I’d sure like USB-C better but we are stuck with the micro-USB connector on the OGN transmitter. Use this Amazon link instead for a converter https://a.co/d/cb5MLvW.
Best Regards,
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Monday, February 6th, 2023 at 9:55 am #13172
Steven Snyder
ParticipantJohn, do you anticipate the club gliders using the converter? If not, should we have a multi place charger?
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Monday, February 6th, 2023 at 11:34 am #13173
John Phelan
ParticipantDeRosa would have a better answer but I don’t think there is anything to charge on the OGN boards. They need aircraft power to run. I don’t see any battery on the board in the photo that DeRosa sent out.
Best Regards,
John F. Phelan
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Monday, February 6th, 2023 at 2:07 pm #13174
Dennis Burke
ParticipantThe OGN boards DO have a battery on board, bu can’t see it, its mounted on backside in a holder because its a Tubular Lith ion (looks like a Big AA) with about 3400 to 3700 milliamphour capacity. It can be recharged thru the onboard USB port.So to unit is somewhat stand-alone. -
Monday, February 6th, 2023 at 3:23 pm #13175
John Phelan
ParticipantOK. So how do we turn it on/off when it is in a glider? DeRosa indicated it will power up with the master switch in the glider but this seems to contradict that.
What am I missing?
Best Regards,
John F. Phelan
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Monday, February 6th, 2023 at 3:58 pm #13176
John DeRosa
ParticipantJohn P,
No action on the part of the pilot is needed.The OGN receiver auto powers up as soon as ship’s power is applied.After ship’s power is removed the OGN receiver will turn off – something I remember learning in EE101 college class. If there is a battery installed (not required) the unit will run for a while before dying which also turns the unit off. Thus the universe returns to equilibrium.Sound about right?John H DeRosa(OHM Ω)“Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new.”– Albert EinsteinOn Monday, February 6, 2023 at 03:25:12 PM CST, SSI <webmaster@skysoaring.com> wrote:
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OK. So how do we turn it on/off when it is in a glider? DeRosa indicated it will power up with the master switch in the glider but this seems to contradict that.
What am I missing?
Best Regards,
John F. Phelan
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Tuesday, February 7th, 2023 at 7:16 am #13177
John DeRosa
ParticipantSteve – Any aircraft having an OGN transmitter installed will need a 12Vdc to micro-USB converter to run off the ship’s main battery power system just like all other non-mechanical avionics such as a radio, audio vario, etc.
Best Regards,
John H DeRosa
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